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Wednesday, 06 August 2008

The Joys of Blogging

There are days – and, sometimes, whole weeks – when the bad guys, the hateful, obnoxious, foul, nasty, malicious miscreants of the web tempt a Crabby Old Lady to throw in the blogging towel.

It’s bad enough the number of splogs that steal Crabby’s stories, post them as original and throw in a hundred Google Ads. It’s almost impossible to find the names of hosts to report them and Crabby resents that the ISPs, hosts and Google don’t police those sites themselves, leaving it to bloggers fight an invisible enemy.

But it’s an uptick in comment spam that’s giving Crabby Old Lady fits the past couple of weeks. It’s easy to delete the spam from people who sign themselves xieytfjeiswp. Even it if were the screen name of a real person with something worthwhile to say, Crabby isn’t interested if they can’t create a better pseudonym. And of course, that’s never the fact of the matter. These are always spam, their unpronounceable names linking, inevitably, to porn sites.

In a recent twist, people with real-looking names copy a paragraph from a comment above theirs, but their name still links to porn or, occasionally, a retail site. Crabby deletes three or four of these every morning and several more during the day.

Lately, however, Crabby’s vitriol is aimed at the ones who think she is dumb enough to link to their crappy, little businesses. An amazing number of these are mommybloggers who sell dubious lotions or “green” cleaners or (god help Crabby, it’s true) menopause nightgowns.

The self-importance involved in this kind of spam is stunning. In one recent comment (well, this one was email – there are also too many of those), the mommyblogger told Crabby that she had “reviewed” Crabby’s blog and decided it was “worth” the help she could provide. Crabby’s blog traffic would increase and her search engine ranking would climb, said the woman, if Crabby would just link to her commercial website, and there would be an even bigger benefit if Crabby would write a post about the wonderful product she is “offering” people.

Feeling the need to bitch about all this public, Crabby chose this email to check into rather than just delete it as usual. It took all of 30 seconds to find that the website’s traffic was less than a tenth of Crabby’s and the associated blog had an authority of 0 on Technorati. (Not that those rankings bear any resemblance to reality, but that’s another story.)

Well, really now. What else did Crabby expect.

All spam is evil and Crabby isn’t even talking about the bandwidth used up with millions, maybe billions, of spam messages a day. But to mess up blogs with spam comments is no different than if the person spray painted an ad on your house or car. It craps up the blog and steals time from the blogger for the necessary house cleaning every day.

Most spammers – the smart ones - are anonymous, impossible to track down. For the ones stupid enough to use their real names and provide a link to their blogs or websites, Crabby is thinking there should be a website where they can be outed and listed as blog criminals.

All Crabby Old Lady – or anyone – owns of real value, worth more than diamonds, gold and any amount of wealth, is their time. Spammers are time thieves.

There are mornings when Crabby, weary at seeing the blog and email spam first thing, wants to shut down her laptop and give up. She wonders then how many hours, days, weeks, months are wasted in the collective blogosphere on these miscreants.

[At The Elder Storytelling Place today, JoAnn marvels at how much remains to be said even after nearly 50 years of marriage in Time to Talk.]

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Comments

Sorry, Ronni. I know there isn’t really a bright side to this, but let’s pretend for just a moment that there is. In THAT case, since we can’t seem to do anything about the spam, I’d say you can be flattered that people try to spam your blog. No one tries to spam mine. Well, hardly ever. That’s because hardly anyone comes to my blog. :) YOUR blog is valuable to so many of us. So, more people will try to spam it. Lucky you! But still… sorry… what a drag...

Posted by: Nikki on Aug 6, 2008 6:10:05 AM

I am so sorry. Just a line to let you know you are appreciated.
Good day thoughts are being sent to you this early morning.

Posted by: ernestine on Aug 6, 2008 6:36:42 AM

One thing that has always interested me is why there can't be any counter measures taken on closing down the spam servers. I saw a documentary and stanted that the majority of spam is sent out from surprisingly not that many spam servers (under 50). If that is so, couldn't it be possible to figure out where they are and close off access? This might appear very naive of me, but I just think of the the time and money masses and masses of people around the world spend daily throwing these clumps of lotus away.

Posted by: lilalia on Aug 6, 2008 6:46:42 AM

The volume of spam I get everyday just amazes and stuns me with its stupidity. Once I tried opening my blog to all comments and within a minute I had four tedious, stupid, awful spams. I sympathize with you.
We need a postage system for email.

Posted by: zuleme on Aug 6, 2008 7:02:38 AM

"illegitimi non carborundum". Your site is too valuable to become a casualty of those (expletive deleted) spammers. Those of us who look forward to your insights and common sense would be devastated if TGY bites the dust.

Posted by: flutterby on Aug 6, 2008 7:56:31 AM

I'm thinking...that the reason we still have spam around is because the reward for stopping it isn't worth much (yet). ISP's, etc, are not going to spend $$ without compensation or perceived compensation. What would you pay for 'guaranteed' spam blocking? That may be the question.

Posted by: Steven on Aug 6, 2008 8:09:00 AM

flutterby: TGB isn't going anywhere. But it is so wearying to wade through all the crap every day all day to find the stuff you need and want. Crabby's just letting off steam.

Crabby had been particularly disheartened by the increase in the mommyblogger spammers. The majority of spammers are just nasty, but now mothers are becoming evil too.

Steven: Crabby doesn't think she or anyone should pay for spam blocking. She thinks it is a cost of doing business. And by the way, all the spam that arrives in Crabby's mailbox is minuscule compared to the amount that is blocked by her various methods, so the spam problem has obviously reached gigantic proportions.

Crabby's pretty sure that if she counted up all spam - blocked and what gets through - it could be ten times the legitimate email.

Posted by: Crabby Old Lady on Aug 6, 2008 8:20:25 AM

Ditto nikki (just what I was going to say) but wash zuleme's mouth....er, keyboard, with soap. A "postal system for email"??? What are you thinking?

TGB is fantastic and so in Crabby Lady.

Posted by: Granny Annie on Aug 6, 2008 8:38:41 AM

Have you tried askimet? It's caused thousands of spam for me and nary a false positive. Stuff still gets through (and the stealing a comment from the line above sounds custom-made to avoid Askimet trapping it) but it cuts it right down.

The great thing about Askimet is that if you report something as spam, it goes into their database. If lots of people do, it ranks the info up. So your clean up time is actually helping the blogosphere !

And it's free.


Posted by: sylvia on Aug 6, 2008 9:00:51 AM

Yes, yes, yes. I join your Most Crabby self in heaping bad karma on this aspect of the online world.

Posted by: Virginia on Aug 6, 2008 9:18:24 AM

Is it just me who is bothered by the comments, not spam, posted by "anonymous"? Does not seem these are people who do not know how to have an identity.

One of my favorite bloggers has changed to capcha requiring three tries! Guess there's a reason. Ronni, it's very courageous to make it easy to converse here, and an important model. Rant away but, please, stick around.

Posted by: naomi dagen bloom on Aug 6, 2008 9:40:49 AM

I hate the spammers. I am sick of it.

Posted by: Rhea on Aug 6, 2008 9:45:33 AM

Naomi...

There is one regular commenter on TGB who signs him- or herself as anonymous. That, of course, is always an alert to a spam message, but this person - I'm assuming it's the same one - leaves cogent, interesting comments, whatever the reason for the anonymous moniker. So anonymous isn't always a bad guy.

As to making it easy, I don't see the point of a blog if it's hard to comment. Yes, it's a big-time pain in the butt to clean out all the spam and Crabby is just venting today, but for going on five years I've tried hard to create and maintain a space where real conversation can happen.

Spam interrupts the flow and if left to proliferate, eventually kills a blog, a forum and other places where people gather online.

It's just that some mornings, looking forward to reading who has commented overnight and who has sent a chatty email and the alerts and newsletters I subscribe to, it is so deflating to wade through so much crap.

Rotten way to start the day.

Posted by: Crabby Old Lady on Aug 6, 2008 10:00:38 AM

Oh, I'm right there with you, Crabby! Thankfully I get less comment spam than email spam, because my server and/or the blog program plug in is quite good in catching and blocking most of it. With the emails, they go into a junk box and I give it a quick glance in case anything legit ends up in there. Still that takes time, precious time! Yet there's always a new wave coming by, the mommy bloggers next?

Posted by: marja-leena on Aug 6, 2008 10:32:07 AM

As of this morning, my spam filter has caught 2179 messages it has identified as spam. That's a lot of time wasted for two comments that were caught inadvertantly.

Most of this spam comes from the same IP address. I wish there were a way I could "stealth bomb" it!

It's a sad fact of life that a good and wholesome thing such as this blog almost inevitably becomes the target of leeches. They want a free ride on the back of the one who works so hard to create and maintain it. O temps! O mores!

Posted by: Mike Nichols on Aug 6, 2008 11:15:04 AM

I never mind anonymous comments on my blog if they apply to the topic. I do delete any that are just trying to draw traffic to their own sites and don't relate to the topic. I prefer the comments where if it's interesting and someone has a blog, I can follow it back to see what their philosophy is in a broader sense.

Posted by: Rain on Aug 6, 2008 2:49:54 PM

Anonymous comments are fine if they make sense and are on topic.

The hate-mongering diatribes that I've gotten a few times never see daylight and I report them to Blogger.

I had someone I know who was angry with me leave a couple hateful comments and I wouldn't allow them to be published. (I also copied them and sent them around to people who needed to know to what depths this person had sunk.)

I just commented about the spammers on my blog last week. I don't have ads on my blog. I don't want other people advertising their wares on my blog which is why I keep comment moderation turned on.

I suspect more could be done about this problem but I suspect that someone somewhere is making huge bucks from it. The trick is following the money trail.


Posted by: Kay Dennison on Aug 6, 2008 6:00:37 PM

If I were you, I'd copyright "All spam is evil" and start production on t-shirts, bumper stickers, and coffee mugs. And if someone else does it, it wasn't me who stole it from you!

Posted by: Citizen K. on Aug 6, 2008 8:13:59 PM

This is the number one reason I swapped to wordpress from typepad. Akismet is so nice to use as a spam filter....

Just deleted over 400 spams in a heartbeat...and it just keeps on working!

"Akismet has caught 138,448 spam for you since you first installed it."

Noli nothis permittere te terere, Ronni....

Posted by: donna on Aug 6, 2008 9:06:18 PM

Now that you've vented on this perpetual ongoing problem I feel better. Suppose the irritation will continue to buildup over time and another pressure release will be in order sometime in the future. But, let it all out here as long as you keep posting in between times.

I've found the spam extremely aggravating, too, though I'm sure I'm not subjected to it as much as you are. I've had a few of those business opportunities, too, as you describe. I like to think some of them may be well-meaning naive entrepreneurs. I am much less charitable to others with a self-serving agenda who are likely very savvy. I've done a couple stupid things on the Internet common sense should have told me not to do, but not for business or personal gain, before I had a really clear picture of the significance of this medium.

This all reminds me of how annoying I've found all the handbills, little plastic bags containing a business card and filled with gravel to weigh them down tossed regularly in my driveway, some printed sales flyers and more business cards stuffed in my screendoor and more. I make arrangements to stop newspaper deliveries, have mail held when I leave home, but this stuff just keeps coming.

Our city recently expanded their permit requirements and established a "no solicitations" list (similar to the national "Do Not Call" phone list.) Hopefully, this will also include the multitude of religious groups who seem to feel obligated to convert me to their one and only belief system. There seems to be an assumption residents of our neighborhood lack a spirituality of our own. I suspect the act of door-to-door is more to meet the need of those who do so, despite their professed intent.

Only time will tell how successful the elimination of all this unwelcomed neighborhood "spam" is. Now, if only more effort would be exerted by those groups who might be able to devise tech ways in which to wipe out this email and blog spam, about which you're writing here, I would really be pleased.

Posted by: joared on Aug 6, 2008 10:15:12 PM

Menopause NIGHTGOWNS? Surely you jest!

I suppose if there is any bright side to this ridiculous situation it's that you wouldn't have such a problem if your site weren't so well read. I never have such problems. I rest my case!

Posted by: Bev on Aug 7, 2008 10:26:13 AM

A dominant theme of BlogHer 08 was "how to monetize your blog" -- which I suppose is driving some of the mommyblogging spam.

Still, it is discouraging.

Typepad's doing a great job for me in blocking comment spam. There's a particularly pernicious one for "teen gulags" -- you know, those expensive "schools" where kids get straightened out.

Posted by: Liz Ditz on Aug 12, 2008 3:55:15 PM


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