Actor's Gratuitous Ageism Gets Shot Down
Friday, 09 January 2015
Fifty-year-old, New Zealander actor Russell Crowe got himself in some well-deserved hot water recently when, shortly before Christmas, he told Australia's Women's Week magazine,
"The best thing about the industry I'm in – movies – is that there are roles for people in all different stages of life," Russell says...
"To be honest, I think you'll find that the woman who is saying that (the roles have dried up) is the woman who at 40, 45, 48, still wants to play the ingénue, and can’t understand why she's not being cast as the 21 year old.
"Meryl Streep will give you 10,000 examples and arguments as to why that's bullshit, so will Helen Mirren, or whoever it happens to be. If you are willing to live in your own skin, you can work as an actor. If you are trying to pretend that you’re still the young buck when you’re my age, it just doesn’t work."
Oh dear, not again. Apparently, there is much more but you need to be a subscriber to Women's Week to read the whole interview. Doesn't matter – others have read it for us and reported back.
With the holidays and all, it took a couple of weeks for the media to react, but they're catching up now.
Last weekend, Gawker's Jezebel website led with their trademark pull-no-punches style; “Always Full of Shit Russell Crowe Says Actresses Should Act Their Age,” read the headline. Then reporter Rebecca Rose took him down for that last sentence (above) from one section of his rant.
”Funny how Crowe doesn't bother to offer any opinion about the mind boggling legacy of Hollywood men playing romantic leads to women 10,20, 30, and sometimes 40 (!!!!!) years younger than them.
"Because it's clearly the sad old women daring to pretend they are outside their actual birth ages that are ruining Hollywood.”
By Monday, the The Sydney Morning Herald had chimed in, adding Crowe to their astonishingly long list of other male celebrities who spout such deeply misogynist “sexist claptrap.”
(They never learn, do they? Men, who can be so immensely attractive for any number of good reasons, can also be such pigs.)
I caught up with the story on Tuesday when I was stuck at home all day while my denture was being refitted. (Nobody – I mean, NOBODY - gets to see me without my denture.)
By then, The Guardian had taken up cudgels against Crowe's outburst. Reporter Nosheen Iqbal noted that women in movies don't have male actors'
”...privilege of being able to grow a gut, a temper, be perma-grizzled and still get jobs. The ones who once they get past 'a certain age' (37, it’s basically 37, guys) are forced by the world’s most superficial industry to adopt that weird, waxy surgical sheen on their frozen faces.
“That, or Crowe is drowning in scripts featuring rich, varied parts for women who are 40, 45, 48 and above. Either way, off-beam and dead daft advice coming from a middle-aged man who famously threw a telephone at someone’s face because it wouldn’t work.”
Nosheen Iqbal also saved me a lot of work by telling us,
”Still, one Jezebel commenter, so annoyed by Crowe’s wilful offensiveness, researched the numbers in 2014’s 20 highest-grossing films (excluding animations) in the US and found that on average, three out of 10 actors were women – only a pathetic 8% of those actors were aged between 40 and 59, while just 2% were women over 60.”
Russell Crowe notwithstanding, we at this blog know just how scarce are the roles for old women (and old men too) especially if they are not dementia patients.
But the biggest reason I've posted this today is to show off Ms. Iqbal's sensationally clever summing up of the Crowe debacle. I'm jealous because not only had I never heard the quotation before, I'm pretty sure I would not have thought to use it if I had.
”Of course, Mirren and Streep aren’t proof that there are parts for older women,” writes Iqbal.
"They are, as that old genius crone Tina Fey routinely points out, proof that there are parts for Mirren and Streep.”
You have, Russell Crowe, been well and properly rebuked.
At The Elder Storytelling Place today: Clifford Rothband: I Wonder at It All
Several years back, the man proved himself to be such a boor in real life that I no longer waste time on anything he says or does except on the screen. And even then, reluctantly.
Posted by: PiedType | Friday, 09 January 2015 at 08:05 AM
With my first read-through of the Russell Crowe quote you presented, I couldn't see anything wrong with it. After all, we all know women who are desperately trying to hold on to their youth by any means possible. And there are whole industries trying to sell us on the idea that it is possible to do that with the right product, the right surgery, the right diet or exercise.
On my second read-through I realized that Hollywood isn't writing good parts for leading women over forty or writing very few of them, while male actors seem to have a much longer shelf life as leading men. Who do we blame for that? The youth focused industry that has brainwashed society? The schools who no longer teach the value of of good literature and writing skills? We senior citizens who don't go to the theaters in high enough numbers to support the few films that do come out featuring leading parts for those in our age bracket? On the good (?) side younger men are now getting caught up in wanting to hold on to their youthful looks, so maybe in time parts for men over 40 will dry up too. That would be sweet revenge and even us out. LOL
Posted by: Jean | Friday, 09 January 2015 at 08:08 AM
I'm intrigued by one thing Russell Crowe said: "If you are trying to pretend that you’re still the young buck when you’re my age, it just doesn’t work."
I haven't seen a movie he's been in lately, but is he really not trying to play the young buck anymore? Women may be trying to look younger, but men--whose looks seem to be less of an issue in Hollywood--keep trying to play younger.
I remember a film some years back in which Clint Eastwood was having a relationship with a woman decades younger. In one scene he took off his shirt, and I sat thinking, "Put it back on, Clint. Put it back on."
Posted by: Nancy Wick | Friday, 09 January 2015 at 08:27 AM
Ms.Iqbal quoted the genius crone, Tiny Fey. Allow me to quote another genius crone, "They never learn, do they? Men, who can be so immensely attractive for any number of good reasons, can also be such pigs."
Posted by: Fritzy Dean | Friday, 09 January 2015 at 09:08 AM
I had the same reaction as Jean. So no reason to say more
Posted by: [email protected] | Friday, 09 January 2015 at 09:55 AM
While I agree that Crowe's comments weren't the most sensitive and well thought-out, I think he was expressing some sympathies with all actors, female and male, with the difficulties of getting juicy roles well beyond their 30's-40's, and how they may all do better if they're comfortable in their real, not artificially enhanced or photo-shopped, skin. I've never thought of Russell Crowe as that attractive, or youthful looking, an actor, and in what ever I've seen him in at any age, he's always looked rather rough and unappealing to me. I do, though, find him a fairly good actor.
On a related note, the recent discussion of Frances McDormand as a spokesperson on the subject of actresses who have the courage to look their age lost some credibility for me when I was looking up, earlier today, something she was in and found her photo on her IMDb page looking about 25. Oh well, it's a tough and competitive world out there. and you do what you have to do to survive in it, I guess.
Posted by: Cathy Johnson | Friday, 09 January 2015 at 01:23 PM
Frances McDormand may not have control over what picture appears on IMDd. I wouldn't put her down for that.
Posted by: Yvonne | Friday, 09 January 2015 at 05:07 PM
Actually if you look at all of Frances McDormand's photos on IMDB there are a total of 133. After that first one (probably there for some time), there are a number of current shots.
As for Crowe's comment, it seems cavalier and probably reflective of pretty shallow thinking. Shame on him.
Posted by: annie | Saturday, 10 January 2015 at 12:28 AM
Hmmm....some of us don't have a clue what Russell Crowe or Frances McDormand have done or what they look like. Names in a blog....
Posted by: Cop Car | Saturday, 10 January 2015 at 08:37 AM
Count me as one of them, Cop Car.
Posted by: Darlene | Saturday, 10 January 2015 at 10:39 AM
No wonder his ex- divorced him for throwing a phone when he could not get her on a cell phone in NYC..He is such an ass, and self-absorbed, I like to think mature women are the best actresses they have perfected their craft and show it in the fims they prefer to act in..not the blockbuster bullshit that comes out of mega films like the dreadful exterminator series, the stupid re-makes of the transformer series and the ninja turtles debacle come on, women are to be appreciated for their acting not the tiniest jeans and tight ass clothing..I think he is really a stupid shit, he had his time when he played the fellow on the ship commander or whatever it was he hasn't done anything good since he won that academy award for being a warrior in the that place fighting (Gladiator)horses, dragons, other human beings for the kill give me a freakin break and he is 50 afterall no spring chicken himself, Helen Mirris 69 and looks like a 35 at tops and Meryl Streep is 65 and looks like she is 45 tops great and long lived actresses he has the freaking nerve, oh my goodness sakes, he just shows his stupidity and prejudice ageism is the word about woman! Shame on you mr. crowe!
Posted by: mary | Saturday, 10 January 2015 at 11:55 AM